Founders, what's going on? You guys know I love in-person events and they are back. The recording

you're about to hear is from our most recent event where we had hundreds of founders come together,

share intimate details, templates, KPIs, OKRs about their business and it was something special,

something special. We'd love to meet you in person. If you want to see the next live events we have coming up via our schedule,

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next event. We'd love to see you in person. In the meantime, though, enjoy this recording.

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Our business is about helping people build great companies.

And the reality is, every single one of you out here has an operating system.

The question is, what kind of operating system do you have?

There are about five operating system types that are out there if you think about it.

First of all, when you start a company, you've got this thing called an accidental operating system, right? So you've got papers and Excel and PowerPoints and just trying to get your act together and you're working

like dogs just trying to make things happen, right? And so a bunch of people are doing a bunch of

different things and you're probably not even using the same tools to figure it all out. And then all a sudden you're like, wait a second, we can't have people's names in one document here and another

document, another document here. Let's bring it all together. And that's called an intentional

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