How often do you have to touch an explosive?

More often than we used to.

We were off the coast of an Asian country and they said,

hey, there's a person coming on a boat to collect explosives.

So I'm standing down there in my Navy Dungary uniform.

Have you ever seen those?

This single man in a rubber boat comes in the back of my ship,

and he looks like a Greek god.

He's got a satcom in there

dive gear weapon system and he just gets out of the boat it's like hey load my stuff up where's

the chow hall like dude I can't take you the chow hall I have explosives he's like they're mine now

it's my responsibility so we go up and we eat we get back down to his boat I said mate

you mind if I ask you what do you do he's like

i'm a navy diver i'm like navy has divers like i thought salvage diving yeah that's all i've ever seen

yeah he's like yeah explosive ordinance disposal that's how i started looking at eOD how you went from

whoever you were to the man who's teaching the presidential guard guard of Abu Dhabi how to protect their president.

So we'll start with, Thon.

Trevor, I'm super pumped to have you here.

I've been wanting to have this conversation for a long time because you and I have a number of things in common.

Now, there's also some awesomely unique things about you that I want to get into.

But one of the main things that we have in common is that we both know what it's like to serve as private contractors abroad supporting foreign governments.

Now, for you, you spent some time as a trainer to the

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