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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

He Saw the Coronavirus Coming

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2020

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

The coronavirus, also known as COVID-19, started in China as a bat virus that eventually made contact with humans. Researchers say this leap between species was highly predictable – so why were communities and governments caught flat-footed? And what does the virus’s transmission from animals to humans say about how we interact with the greater ecosystem? Guest: Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Happy holidays, everyone. It's Mary. Over the next few days, we're going to be

0:04.0

re-broadcasting episodes that stuck with us this year. And we'll check back in with a few of our

0:09.3

guests and see how their saga's ended. We wanted to start by considering the biggest story of the

0:15.0

year, the pandemic, which reshaped the way most of us live and caused so many people to die.

0:22.1

The very first interview we did about COVID, it was at the beginning of March,

0:26.2

one of the last conversations I had with anyone in person. At the time, we knew a little bit about

0:32.2

the coronavirus, but not how it would upend our world. But Peter Doshock, this episode's guest,

0:40.2

he did.

0:46.8

Yeah, when did you first hear about what was happening in Wuhan with this outbreak?

0:51.1

Oh, I know exactly when it was near as if it was during the day.

0:54.1

This is Peter Doshock, he's a zoologist, lives in New York, works in China.

0:59.8

We were following rumors on the internet in China about this outbreak.

1:04.6

And I got these translated internet sites that were saying not only is it a new virus,

1:09.8

it's a coronavirus. I think people knew back then.

1:12.4

Coronavirus is one of Peter's areas of expertise. He's been studying how infections,

1:17.8

like this new one, COVID-19, move. They start out in an animal, like say a bat.

1:25.5

Then they jump the way this one did.

1:28.4

You know, the minute we got the sequence that was released, we quickly matched that up and

1:33.2

showed that it was a bat virus. And not only that, it's very close to the group we've been working on.

1:38.3

So, you know, your emotion then is excitement in a way, because this is exactly what you've

1:44.4

been saying is going to happen. And then fear that our lives are going to be, you know,

1:48.6

turned upside down and people are going to die, which is exactly what's happening right now.

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