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Radio Atlantic

He's Undocumented. She's Not.

Radio Atlantic

The Atlantic

Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.3 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

A young Chicago couple—one is an undocumented immigrant from Poland, and the other is a U.S. citizen—face a choice: stay in the place they’ve called home—or give up on the place that doesn’t seem to want them anymore. --- Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/listener. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:31.8

Just a quick note, this episode contains some cursing that you may not usually hear on this show.

0:39.8

On September 6th, President Trump posted a fabricated image on Truth Social of a burning Chicago skyline with helicopters flying overhead.

0:49.1

I love the smell of deportations in the morning, he wrote, a reference from Apocalypse Now.

0:57.0

A couple of days later, the Department of Homeland Security announced Operation Midway Blitz.

1:03.6

Operation Midway Blitz will, quote, target the criminal illegal aliens who flock to Chicago.

1:10.4

Agents and demonstrators pushing and shoving outside an ice facility just

1:14.7

outside the city this morning. From tear gas being deployed outside a

1:18.2

Logan Square market to an older person being handcuffed, checking on a man

1:22.6

who had been detained and injured.

1:40.3

These types of scenes have since played out all across the country in the pursuit of one ambitious goal, at least a million deportations every year. But even with ICE's $28 billion annual budget, the largest for a law enforcement agency in the federal government,

1:47.9

it still may not be possible to deport the 14 million or so people who are here illegally.

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