We beat them with intelligence.

Zapier only moves stuff around, but we can understand what is inside and make a better decision.

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Hey folks. My guest today is Ilya Zelentgen. He is building something called BitSkout.

He calls it Zapier with brains. He was born in Minsk, immigrated to Barcelona, pursuing a career in global, a multinational. Last seven years, he loved the Innovations Unit and built super successful

things. He got multiple innovation awards and then finally left to build his own thing, which we love.

A month before COVID, this is when this all happens.

He's a husband, the father loves basketball and video games, a fan of Steve Blank, Ben Horowitz, and Peter Thiel.

Would work for Elon Musk just for food and a bed.

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