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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

He Made the First Covid Vaccine. They Shut Him Down

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2021

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

See the extended interview at http://usefulidiots.substack.com Josiah Zayner wants to teach you genetic engineering. For two reasons: 1. He thinks it’d be awesome. And 2: It would hurt Big Pharma. “Gene therapies can cure and treat diseases,” he explains. “We can engineer animals and plants to make fuels and food and crazy stuff. The applications are limitless. We just need people working on it. And the only reason people aren't is because there's that knowledge gap.” But the knowledge gap is something that can be fixed, right? All we have to do is educate people. And that’s the mission of Odin, Josiah’s company that helps you become a scientist without huge grants and a PhD. And if regular people learn how to make this stuff for themselves, we can stop relying on pharma companies. “The drug market is so messed up. These companies are only trying to make drugs that make money,” he laments. “We literally have a cure for a disease that is not being provided to people because drug companies think they can't get the price they deserve for it. How fucked up is that?” Josiah’s latest venture, which got him heavily censored on the internet, was engineering a Covid vaccine. “We found that those who had the vaccine were protected. And it was pretty crazy because I was like, wow, that's amazing data, right? Why isn't everybody jumping on this?” He and his team created a DNA (easier and cheaper than mRNA) vaccine and proved its effectiveness. This was in the summer of 2020. But it wasn’t the big drug companies’ vaccine. So they suppressed him. And only now, over a year later, are other countries finally starting to use it. About time, right? It’s one of our most interesting interviews with a curious experimenter who wants to teach us all to be scientists. It’s worth a listen. Plus, new Russiagate docs, Trump’s toad penis, and throwing shit at politicians. It’s all this, and more, on this week’s episode of Useful Idiots. Check it out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

All right, welcome to use flutty. It's I'm Matt Taibe and I'm Katie helper. And this is a speed. I want to do the entire show it, which is what speed.

0:13.3

The faster. Oh, yeah, let's do it. All right. I'll be yeah, let's do it. Pace, pace, pace, pace.

0:20.1

Lots of stuff to go through this week. We have a really fascinating guest actually. Yeah, literally one of the most.

0:25.2

Not.

0:28.5

You will find out why that one is appropriate, but one of the most interesting people I've ever interviewed. I should you not. Yeah, you've interviewed a lot of people. So.

0:37.7

So, uh, so that's what we'll keep it a secret. Uh, quickly we have to get because this is not part of the program that we have scheduled. We should probably just sort of mention that, you know, the latest development in the sound case since.

0:51.7

Like only eight people are going to talk about it otherwise. So there was a Yahoo news did it did an investigation like Yahoo news.

1:00.5

I know. What's that all about? And I guess the angle for people is that this came from the Trump administration.

1:07.9

And which makes sense in that sense, but you know, essentially there was a plan. Well, it was discussed within the CIA that they might

1:18.5

Dean WikiLeaks say a quote non-state hostile intelligence service, which could lead to kidnapping and even assassinating Julian Assange.

1:29.7

Of course, they, you know, they didn't fall through it. They just talked about it, right? Like, you know, that's a crime. I mean, really, you know, come on.

1:36.9

Are we not allowed to discuss possibilities? It's a free country. Exactly. Exactly.

1:43.8

You know, it's funny. I, I, I, I, I believe it was out of baseball game with the justice official.

1:50.3

Uh, yeah, it's kind of random. It was somebody who was a source on something else.

1:56.9

And the subject of Assange very briefly came up. And this was in the Obama years. He sort of just casually described him as well.

2:07.6

You know, it's a hot, it's a hostile terrorist organization. So, so I think this is like the prevailing thinking, you know, within, you know, I'm saying like this.

2:17.4

I don't think this was a unique to Trump. Well, unique to Trump or unique even to a few people. I think this is kind of the prevailing view.

2:26.0

You know, we've had hints of this from Hillary Clinton saying, why can't we just ruin them? Right? Allegedly, you know, to the fact that they

2:32.5

did a thousand different insane things to do them while he was in custody and look through his kids diapers. Yeah, all that stuff. So.

2:42.1

And shout out to friend of show Max Bumenthal for reporting on the stuff earlier. I don't think with this evidence, but there is a Spanish case about this.

2:50.1

Um, about the treatment about what, what you see, you see global, which is a Spanish security firm, what they were doing.

2:59.0

Um, at the past, we thought of the CIA, but now we know the CIA, I guess really was talking about it.

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