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The Gist

He Left the Hold Steady for Mongolia

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2017

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Franz Nicolay made his bones playing with big bands, in size and in popularity (The Dresden Dolls, Against Me, the Hold Steady). But Nicolay longed to strike out on his own and master the "practical craft of the old vaudevillian." So he packed his banjo (and accordion and guitar) for a string of tours across Eastern Europe and Central Asia. Nicolay's consequent book is The Humorless Ladies of Border Control: Touring the Punk Underground From Belgrade to Ulaanbaatar. For the Spiel, the many types of liars employed by Donald Trump.  Today's sponsor: The Showtime original series Billions, starring Emmy winners Damian Lewis and Paul Giamatti. Billions returns Feb. 19 with new episodes every Sunday at 10 ET/9 CT. Download the Showtime app now to start your free trial. Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at slate.com/gistplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:08.2

Friday, February 3, 2017, from Slated to the Gist I, Mike Pesca,

0:12.8

we hear it the Gist often have high-minded conversations amongst ourselves.

0:16.6

For instance, Chris pointed out that the Australians have been even more steadfast

0:21.9

wartime allies to the Americans than his Canadians have been.

0:25.7

And Mary said, well, beyond the wartime contributions of the Australian military,

0:30.8

think about what their military has given us in peacetime.

0:33.7

Without the Australian military, we would never have Captain Kangaroo.

0:37.8

And Chris is a Canadian, had to be explained who Captain Kangaroo was.

0:41.0

But I opined, and I know you've thought of this too, you know,

0:44.3

Captain Kangaroo was always one of those titles that disappointed me.

0:48.5

Like as a child, you hear this description,

0:51.0

Captain Kangaroo, and you imagine tales and pouches and leaping ability,

0:54.9

and only gets a moustache-y old pedant in a red blazer.

0:58.8

So as I said, we discuss very high-minded matters.

1:01.8

Here's another one.

1:03.0

Mary expressed disquiet about attending rallies and wake of the election.

1:07.7

She thought that as a journalist, it's perhaps improper,

1:10.4

or could be seen as such.

1:11.6

Mary is very ethical.

1:13.0

She has training in public radio, and her earnestness on these issues

1:16.6

often really does make me rethink my positions.

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