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Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

He Doesn't Believe in Marriage, But I Can't Let Go of the Hope

Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

Esther Perel Global Media

Mental Health, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Education, Health & Fitness

4.715.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

When her younger sister gets engaged, a woman finds herself spiraling with unexpected grief and frustration. She’s spent years in relationships with men who shy away from marriage, and the news stirs up deeper childhood wounds—secrets about her family and questions of belonging. With Esther’s help, she begins to face the shame she’s carried and the tricky balance between wanting to be seen and wanting to stay true to herself. Esther Callings are a one time, 45-60 minute interventional phone call with Esther. They are edited for time, clarity, and anonymity. If you have a question you would like to talk through with Esther, send a voice memo to [email protected]. Want to learn more? Receive monthly insights, musings, and recommendations to improve your relational intelligence via email from Esther: https://www.estherperel.com/newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

My younger sister just got proposed to.

0:05.0

And the hurt, the heart that I feel, it's so overwhelming.

0:11.0

My partner of age years is amazing.

0:14.0

After multiple, multiple conversations that we had, he just doesn't believe in the institution,

0:19.0

doesn't believe in the ritual, doesn't believe in the ritual, doesn't believe in the

0:22.5

romantic side of it. And he made it very clear that this is not the path for us. And most of the time,

0:32.4

I'm okay without. I can't kill the hope, but I live happily. And those moments, when somebody close to me

0:41.9

experiences something that I deeply so much desire. I feel the pain really, really deep.

0:48.3

My other sister, I'm the oldest of the three, also got proposed about three years, four years ago.

0:56.9

And it was also a very difficult experience and I remember processing it in a little bit different way. I think I tried to just bottle

1:02.0

my emotions and pretend that I didn't need it. Today it's a bit different. I feel like I want to let

1:07.4

those emotions out. Growing up as a child from a different biological father to my sisters,

1:14.6

created quite deep wound for me of being somehow not enough or different or just outcasted.

1:21.6

Maybe this experience is kind of replicating this desire because I had multiple relationships and we always had that same issue where the person would be against it and I would drop the relationship.

1:38.3

It's just without that ritual, without that jewelry, without that party, without that public declaration.

1:46.7

But that pain, like I feel now, it beats me.

1:50.0

I feel like maybe it will never go away.

2:05.6

Support for where should we Begin comes from The Guardian. Not all journalism is the same. Take the Guardian. Their coverage has something special,

2:11.6

fierce independence. Nobody owns them or tells them what they can and cannot say.

2:20.2

So they seek to report the whole picture.

2:24.0

They connect what's happening in Washington to the rest of the globe,

2:26.4

expose corruption wherever they find it,

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