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no questions asked. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Daniel Bassana. He was born in

Italy, but now living in the Netherlands and as founder of a company called WPOK, where they help

small businesses with their WordPress sites. Daniel, are you ready

to take to the top? Let's go. Okay, so this is great. So is this a SaaS play? Are you an agency?

It's, well, actually, none of the two. It's more of a product type service. It's a prototyping service.

Yes, it's a product type service. Product type service, got it.

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