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The Owen Jones Podcast

He DESTROYS Israel’s Iran LIES - w/. Trita Parsi

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

News, Unknown, Politics, News & Politics, Government

4.31.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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0:00.0

He destroys the propaganda in support of Israel's illegal and unprovoked assault on Iran.

0:05.1

I spoke to Tritipasi. He's an Iranian-Swedist. He was the former president of the

0:09.8

National Iranian-American Council and the co-founder of the Quincy Institute for Responsible

0:14.5

statecraft. I start by asking him about his assessment of where things currently stand with

0:19.3

Israel's assault. Well, I think we are in a situation in which within 24, 48 hours, Israelis came back to the

0:25.7

US and said, you know what, we promised you that all you needed to do is to give us a green

0:29.8

light to do this, and we didn't need your help. But actually, we want you to come in and

0:35.0

take over the operations and finish the job job because at the end of the day,

0:38.5

the Israelis started something they knew they could not finish. And I don't think that was a

0:43.8

coincidence. I just didn't think it was going to happen within 24 hours. The Israelis have been

0:48.8

hit hard back by the Iranians. Clearly, Iran is not a match for Israel technologically. Israel has air control

0:57.2

over Tehran and much of Iran right now, which is devastating for the Iranians. But this is not

1:02.4

the same war in which the Israelis are bombing refugees in camps. This is a war in which they're

1:07.7

actually being struck back. And we saw that a very large number of Iranian missiles are penetrating Israel's air defenses.

1:15.2

They have been testing new missiles.

1:17.1

They've been exploring holes in the air defense systems of Israel.

1:20.9

And yesterday, apparently, they only shot one missile and that one got through.

1:24.7

So I think the Iranians are pacing themselves preparing for a long war,

1:28.7

and in that process are increasingly wearing down Israel's air defense systems. So this is going to be

1:35.7

a very costly thing. And these Israelis are going to use that in order to try to push the US into that

1:40.6

war. Now, whether Trump actually is moving towards diplomacy or whether this two-week

1:46.3

talk is just an effort to lull the Iranians into a false sense of security and then strike

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