He Can’t Figure Out What’s Making Him Depressed
The Minimalists
Joshua Fields Millburn
4.7 • 11.5K Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2022
⏱️ 10 minutes
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The Minimalists are joined by philosopher Peter Rollins to discuss how people can identify the sources of their depression. Listen to the full episode at patreon.com/theminimalists
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| 0:00.0 | How do we accurately identify and address the sources of our depression when it's not |
| 0:12.5 | an obvious concern like lack of money or friends? |
| 0:17.5 | You know Pete, I think that the source of the depression is never the source, right? |
| 0:22.4 | It is often, there's a source beneath the source. |
| 0:26.3 | Like the lack of money is not actually what's causing me to be depressed. |
| 0:31.7 | I know this from personal experience. |
| 0:34.3 | I grew up really poor and thought we were unhappy growing up because we didn't have money. |
| 0:39.9 | And so of course when I went out my 20s and climbed the corporate ladder and started making |
| 0:44.7 | really good money, I was in a way even more depressed because money simply amplified |
| 0:50.4 | the habits and behaviors that were going on before the money, right? |
| 0:58.9 | And so there was something else beneath the lack of money. |
| 1:02.1 | The other one was what lack of friends, right? |
| 1:05.3 | Well sometimes you can be surrounded by all the friends that are making you miserable |
| 1:09.5 | or depressed. |
| 1:11.4 | And so that's not the answer either. |
| 1:15.0 | It seems to me there's always some sort of lie behind the what? |
| 1:18.8 | Yes. |
| 1:19.8 | And locating that is very difficult. |
| 1:22.4 | This is why, right? |
| 1:24.3 | This is my critique by the way of too much drugs and meditation. |
| 1:29.6 | I'm not against drugs and meditation, but when they're used as a way to somehow access |
| 1:36.4 | the deeper part of yourself, I, again, I'm not even against that so much, but here's |
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