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Just a reminder that big mood, little mood with Daniel M. Laverie happens twice a week.

Slate Plus members get an additional mini episode or Little Big Mood every Friday.

Sign up now to listen at slate.com slash mood. Hello and welcome back to Big New Little Mood. I'm your host, Danny Laverie, and with me in the studio this week is Ben Roy, a Denver-based comedian whose latest comedy special is called hyena. Then welcome to the show.

Hey, thanks for having me and yeah I'm always stoked when the word heavy is thrown

around so I'm for it. I am too yeah this is not a balanced episode where we've got like kind of a bigger thing a smaller thing something in the middle it's it's kind of all heavy but with that being said none of these I think, are totally insurmountable, and I think that without making ourselves responsible for fixing anyone's problems in a single afternoon, I do think that we're going to be able to be useful and I'm especially

excited I think our first question it went in the direction I wasn't expecting like the

way that it started it was sort of setting up like my brother's the golden child

and usually questions like that are about like how do I deal

with my own irritation or resentment or feeling interpolated or misinterpolated.

And in this case it's a little bit like I think everyone else is being too hard on him right right and

and I kind of love that I believed the letter writer when they said that I didn't

think they were trying to like cover up for sort of subterranean feelings of jealousy and I thought that was like genuinely pretty cool.

Right. So the subjects here is worker bee. My family have always quote worried

about my brother's education, work ethic, and career.

He was the golden boy who partied too hard and coasted too often to predictable results.

Turns out you can get by without planning or meeting deadlines as long as you're charming and brilliant.

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