He Ain’t Heavy, He’s Brother George

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

If the Remnant has a failing, it’s that, in almost 700 episodes of relentlessly nerdy conversation, Robert P. George hasn’t once appeared on the program. Today, Jonah rectifies that mistake, inviting the beloved Princeton professor and director of the James Madison Program onto the show to discuss America’s fraying civic bonds, and what we can do to stem the tide of illiberalism. They also provide some uniquely sophisticated punditry on the 2024 election, examine what it takes to build a conservative institution, and clear up some confusion around Robby’s name. Brothers and sisters alike are encouraged to tune in. Show Notes: - Dr. George’s webpage - Dr. George: “Universities Shouldn’t Take Political Positions” - Dr. George: “How Universities Can Restore Academic Freedom and Free Speech” - Dr. George’s advice for incoming students - Julien Benda’s The Treason of the Intellectuals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Well, ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?
0:22.0	Greetings, you're listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host the Remnant Podcast,
0:31.0	brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media. Very excited for a first-time guest today,
0:36.0	which is kind of shocking, giving my philosophical and professional commitments,
0:42.0	but we live in nothing if not a world of magic and wonder.
0:47.0	Robbie George, which in my small milieu, whenever I say, hey, I'm going to have Robbie George
0:56.0	on the Remnant, what should we talk about? What should I ask him about?
0:59.0	The first question I'll get from people is Black Robbie George or Princeton Robbie George.
1:04.0	And this is Princeton Robbie George, Robert A. George, who's also a dear old friend of mine.
1:11.0	I always tell people the A stands for apostate. Ever since he wrote this cover story for the New Republic of 2004,
1:18.0	endorsing John Kerry for president, Robert P. E. George is a Princeton guy.
1:25.0	He's the McCormick professor of jurisprudence and the director of the James Madison program
1:29.0	in American ideals and institutions at Princeton University.
1:32.0	He studies more on political philosophy, constitutional laws,
1:36.0	civil liberties, bioethics, philosophy of law.
1:39.0	He's also a non-resident fellow at AI, my home away from home.
1:45.0	Any visits Harvard Law School as a professor and all that stuff,
1:48.0	and he has written or edited a whole bunch of books, you may know him as the reasonable guy
1:53.0	who goes on tour from time to time with Cornell West.
1:56.0	So with that, Robbie George, welcome to the Remnant.
1:58.0	Thank you, Jonah. It's a real honor to be on the show.
2:01.0	Can I tell you my Robert A. George story? Sure.
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