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All right, so I did lose a lot of money to Nathan over here.

He got me into a poker game.

I actually don't like it.

I just play poker for social reasons, not the way these guys play.

I think I lost like a grand maybe that night. We've been another game tomorrow night if you want to come. Well no. I try to keep my grand to myself. I don't have

the sexy pants on, so it's all right. So very quickly, since he bought it up, we've not talked

about this. So I came to the States as a poor student at BYU and was in the computer science room,

a market research professor comes into the lab and says, hey, I want somebody to build me

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