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HBM078: Sagittarius Has $45

Here Be Monsters

Here Be Monsters Podcast

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4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2017

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Sagittarius has been good for the last year.  That’s what he told us.  He told us that the cage that Luna designed for him is working.  She controls his money, his businesses, can read his email, can see his bank accounts, and can track the location of his phone.

Please Note: This episode contains frank discussions of sexual addiction and desire.  All names in this episode are pseudonyms.

He says that the next time he messes up, Luna will leave him, and take the kids with her. Avoiding this scenario makes the cage worth it.  

Sagittarius is a sex addict.  His therapist told him that naming his addiction would be a good way to compartmentalize it. So he chose “Sagittarius”, a name he stole from the bow-wielding centaur of astrology known (in part) for emotional recklessness and who is represented by the planet Jupiter.

Sagittarius first emailed us back in 2016, after we published an episode called HBM060: The Predators of McNeil Island.  In that episode, we talked to Chris, a man once deemed by the state of Washington to be a Sexually Violent Predator. Chris told the courts that he’d changed, no longer felt desire to be devious. Sagittarius identified with Chris, saw himself as a version of Chris that had never been committed or sent to court.  But Sagittarius wrote to say that, personally, he’d never say “never” again.   He’d been wrong too many times.

Despite receiving some treatment, and despite the cage, Sagittarius does not feel cured of his addiction. He is actively hoarding cash, $45 of bills he keeps in his backpack.  A secret kept from Luna. Another $100 and Sagittarius could break free from his cage, and pay someone to have sex with him.

In this episode, Sagittarius takes Bethany and Jeff on a walking tour of his New York City “hotspots” he used to frequent, and then takes Jeff on a late night bike ride to Battery Park, where his father once took him to see the Statue of Liberty.

Bethany Denton and Jeff Emtman produced this episode.

Music: The Black Spot, Phantom Fauna

Transcript

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0:00.0

From KCRW, this is Here Be Monsters. And just a note, this episode is about a sex addict that we met, and he speaks pretty frankly about addiction and desire.

0:18.1

Well since we're nearby do you mind popping over to I've been calling them hot spots? I don't know if that's an

0:26.2

appropriate term But I'm just thinking of like an area that is like pertinent to the story that we're trying to tell.

0:33.0

Yeah, that's pretty appropriate.

0:36.0

There's a really hard spot for me to go,

0:40.8

but I actually don't think we can go there right now because our kids might actually be playing next to it.

0:45.0

But we can walk down to...

0:47.0

There's a strip club down the way that's significant.

0:53.2

I think.

0:54.2

Yeah, sure.

0:55.8

Let's maybe walk down here.

0:56.9

Actually, this stream leads to.

0:59.2

I'm a weird another thought. There's another spot on the middle.

1:10.0

Here's this place. It looks like nothing right now.

1:12.0

In fact, it looks like it's not even here.

1:15.2

Gates are down, it looks like an abandoned building. But at night they open those up and

1:20.3

it's not abandoned. It's got neon signs and stuff underneath it. It's a little low key though. It doesn't stick out like a lot of places.

1:28.0

This place actually was as I discovered the secrets to it it became harder to resist because I knew I could come here.

1:40.0

So and kind of get what I wanted.

1:43.3

Get what I wanted.

1:44.4

Get what I wanted. There is another spot. I'm a little apprehensive about going there because my kids might be in the park across the street.

2:10.0

I mean it's funny that's right next to a playground.

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