4.7 • 658 Ratings
🗓️ 5 November 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Lesbian Jesus — so anointed by her fans — is a force to be reckoned with. Artist, actor, director, dancer, New York Times bestselling author. It’s wild! And we’ve finally got her on the couch to discuss her newest novel, the Victorian-set, YA page-turner, Where There’s Room For Us. She discusses the novel’s inception — inspired by her meet-cute with her now fiancé Becca Tilley (of The Bachelor) — and we find out all about her proposal too.
We also do some deep dives into her acting catalogue from Disney’s Lemonade Mouth to Jem and the Holograms, which was directed by John M. Chu! Jem was also where Kiyoko met Stefanie Scott who she cast in the ‘Girls Like Girls’ music video and who she ended up co-writing the screenplay for Girls Like Girls the movie… which is on the way.
We discuss all of that, not to mention her upbringing in a creative household, the landscape for musicians these days versus even ten years ago, and also the landscape for queer artists, plus so much more. Make sure to check out the audiobook as well because Kiyoko’s got none other than actor Jemima Kirke voicing the character of Freya.
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| 0:15.0 | Hi, beautiful human. |
| 0:18.2 | I am Zach. |
| 0:18.8 | That is Anna. |
| 0:19.3 | Welcome to the studio in New York Times best-selling author. I don't know, an incredible actress and an exceptional artist. Say hello to Haley. Thank you. I'm clapping for myself. Hi, you guys. Thank you so much for having me. It's so weird. I've never met you. I've never met you too, but I know |
| 0:37.7 | of you. I've seen you. I'm so sorry, but I know of you and it's a great thing for me. Me too. Same, same, same. Like lemonade mouth incredible. Oh, wow. We go way back. I mean, yeah, we have a longstanding relationship. Okay, wow, yeah. In like the social, television and culture sphere. I've been there. |
| 0:54.4 | Yes. |
| 0:55.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:55.4 | Haunting you. |
| 0:56.3 | But now we're here. |
| 0:58.1 | We're in a different era. |
| 0:59.7 | We are. |
| 1:00.5 | Can you, I mean, come on. |
| 1:02.5 | Like, did you ever really imagine, like when you were starting this whole journey all those years ago in a decomm that you'd be a New York Times-selling author and you're not just writing a memoir. |
| 1:14.2 | You are crafting things. |
| 1:15.7 | Yes, originating from your life, like fiction and universe and like, oh, you're exceptional. |
| 1:21.8 | Thanks, Zach. |
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