5 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 29 January 2021
⏱️ 51 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Please join us for the third and final piece of our series on the movement to protect Mauna Kea. We have been incredibly humbled and blessed to have reported on the movement, and are so grateful to everyone who made this possible.
During the pandemic as tourist numbers have dropped, fish have returned in areas in Hawai’i where they have been absent for years. The land is healing itself. Despite the toll excessive tourism and capitalism has taken on the Hawaiian islands; there is still hope to heal. 27 years ago in 1993, tourists outnumbered Hawaiian residents 6:1 and Native Hawaiians 30:1. Imagine how those figures have risen today...
The Mauna Kea movement has been one of relationships: to land, water, air, kanaka (people), and spirit. On this episode we hear again from the incredible Jamaica Osorio, activist, educator, and cultural practitioner; and Dr. Auntie Noe Noe Wong-Wilson, scholar, poet, and activist. They discuss the lessons and revelations from time on the Mauna and pathways forward to honor relationships and empower future generations.
We recorded this episode the day after the violent insurrection on the Capitol, so we bring in our thoughts about resistance, activism, and overthrow under settler colonialism.
We hope that through this series you can join us in imagining an otherwise future, built and cemented in Indigenous relationships. There is so much to learn beyond this series, so please continue learning alongside us.
“We are certainly not too late to live in dignity with our āina” - Jamaica Osorio
+++
All My Relations is Listener Supported
Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/allmyrelationspodcast
Follow
Dr. Noe Noe Wong Wilson, Executive Director of The LĀLĀKEA FOUNDATION
Jamaica Osorio on Instagram
All My Relations on Instagram
Support
https://www.protectmaunakea.net/donate
Music and Oli
La’ Howard
Episode art by Ciara Sana.
Fiscal Sponsorship by Speak Out!
Support the show (https://www.paypal.me/amrpodcast)
Support the showClick on a timestamp to play from that location
0:00.0 | Hello friends, Adrienne and Matika here. Welcome back to our third and last chapter of our series on the movement against the 30 meter telescope on Monikaia. |
0:10.0 | If you haven't listened to the first two episodes yet, we encourage you to maybe press pause for now and listen to those first just so you're up to speed. |
0:18.0 | It's been just about a year since we visited the beautiful summit of Monikaia. And in that year, a lot has happened. |
0:26.0 | TMT has continued fundraising for the project, even though they're halted construction. There's been a national election. Several Native women have been reelected. |
0:36.0 | Deb Holland is the official nominee for the Secretary of the Interior, the first Native person to hold that position, which is massive because federal funding and most Native relations are allocated through the Department of the Interior. |
0:48.0 | But as far as we can tell from the TMT website, they seem to be forging ahead with their destructive plans. At the end of March 2020, so two or so months after our visit, the pandemic was at a point that the camp on the mountain needed to be closed down for everyone's safety. |
1:07.0 | In order to bring us to the present and hear what's happening with the movement since then, we got back in contact with Jamaica Hailey. |
1:14.0 | Aloha, everyone. This is Noi Noi Wang Wilson. We caught up with them on January 7th, which was the day after the violent insurrection at the Capitol. So we all had settler politics majorly on our minds. |
1:32.0 | In our conversation, they reflect on the lessons from the time on the mountain and let us know where things stand with the TMT today. |
1:39.0 | One thing Jamaica and Aunt Noi Noi want to make clear is that even though the camp at Puhulu Hulu has been closed to Mosquiat Lee, protectors, the protection of the Mount has not stopped and the movement has not stopped. And they're ready to take action, if necessary. |
1:55.0 | Sorry. All my relations. |
2:16.0 | So when we had spoken with you, we were sort of still in that holding pattern. We were still present on the Mount. But a lot of people had started to return home. They have jobs, school was starting the camp while we did not dismantle immediately. |
2:39.0 | Our presence wasn't required to be in full volume on the Mount. So we were still watchful and made sure that the TMT project was not moving forward and things just started to continue in a very peaceful manner. |
2:57.0 | And then soon after, we started hearing on the news about this virus that was starting to wear its ugly head and we were ever vigil, just watching to see what was happening and then found out that in fact our governor, I don't remember the exact date, but it was sometime in March when he ordered that people start to quarantine. |
3:23.0 | We urged people who did not have to be on the Mount to return home. So we sort of gradually moved in that direction until it became pretty apparent that this pandemic was getting worse across the nation. |
3:39.0 | And I remember one day in particular being up there with a fairly small group of people, we still had our tents. I think by this time by the end of March, New York City was raging with the pandemic, right? People were getting ill, they were dying. |
3:57.0 | And there was a lot of confusion nationally about what was happening and how to prepare for this. And people showed up on the Mount to come visit us, but they were there from New York City. |
4:13.0 | And they were visiting us because they were running away from this pandemic in their hometown and then they were coming straight to the monitor to visit us and it frightened me. It really did. And I said, oh my gosh, you know, we cannot. |
4:27.0 | We cannot do this. I know that even if we had, say, a dozen or two dozen people in camp, we tried to maintain our three times a day ritual three times a day protocol because it was such a foundational piece of what we're doing. |
4:45.0 | And every time we did our protocol and especially the noon protocol, we might end up with 100 people. People would come up to the Mount just to participate in protocol. |
4:57.0 | And while it wasn't because I didn't want them to participate in protocol, I was just trying to figure out and not just me but others, you know, concerned about this. |
5:06.0 | How we were going to protect ourselves and our elders from being exposed when we were actually being the attraction. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Matika Wilbur & Temryss Lane, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Matika Wilbur & Temryss Lane and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.