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Hawaiian Pizza, obesity and a second wave?

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News Commentary, Science, Mathematics, News

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Covid-19 cases are rising in the UK - is it a sign of a second wave of the virus? We’re picking apart the data and asking how concerned we should be both now and as autumn approaches. Scotland is undercounting Covid deaths, England is overcounting them: we’ll ask why and whether the problems will be fixed.

Celebrity chef Jamie Oliver claims over a quarter of all the fruit and veg kids eat is in the form of pizza, can this be true? Plus, as some people are blaming obesity for the severity of the coronavirus outbreak in the UK, we’ll find out how big a difference it really makes.

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds Music Radio Podcasts

0:04.5

Hello and welcome to the second wave of more or less our weekly attempt to help you

0:10.7

think more clearly about the world using sophisticated statistical techniques such as counting.

0:17.1

I'm Tim Haferd.

0:18.9

This week a loyal listener asks if the UK's high Covid death toll is explained by the fact

0:25.0

that we are, and I quote, a nation of fatties.

0:29.2

I'm not sure I can endorse the tone, but the question is a very good one, and we have answers.

0:34.6

Jamie Oliver has been claiming that pizza is one of the key sources of food and vegetables

0:40.6

for the nation's children.

0:42.4

We'll be asking, really? And more seriously, we look at rising case counts in the UK and ask

0:50.4

how worried we should be. But first, in July, at the end of our last series, we described

0:56.2

hospital admissions and deaths, both trending downwards, as these are two key indicators of

1:02.5

the spread of Covid. That was a good sign. Since then, things seem to be looking even more positive,

1:09.2

at least they do if you're listening in Scotland.

1:12.4

I am very pleased to see that in the past 24 hours no deaths have been registered of a person who

1:17.4

had been confirmed through a test as having the virus. That was Nicholas Sturgeon, the first

1:22.4

minister of Scotland, and Scotland's daily Covid death count has now recorded no deaths for five weeks.

1:30.6

Up to use a Kate Lambler's back with me. Kate, on the surface, this seems to be very good news.

1:37.1

Look Tim, this is more or less. You know very well. I'm not going to be like, yeah, it's all great.

1:42.6

Let's not miss off early. Go sit in the park.

1:44.9

The fair point would better get on with it and rip off the statistical sticking plaster.

1:49.0

What is really happening? Well, Scotland's daily death figures have been zero. That's true.

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