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As part of this new program, we hope to build on the success of the warning newsletter

and introduce new voices, content, and conversations for our community.

I also think it's important to provide a platform for lesser known voices that need to be heard on topics

that aren't so widely known, understood, or are misunderstood. This week's episode does just that.

We're going to cover a topic that until recently, I was completely unaware of. The topic is stealthing, which is the

non-consensual removal of a condom before or during sexual intercourse. Joining me today to

talk about stealthing and other forms of sexual violence are Alexander Brodsky, a civil rights lawyer with

the long history of advocating on behalf of sexual assault survivors. She is the author of

sexual justice, supporting victims, ensuring due process and resisting the conservative backlash.

She is joined by a friend of mine,

Emma Schwartz, a 19-year-old who unfortunately was the victim of stealthing. As a result of her experience,

she recently launched the adjacent project, which seeks to change the law by advocating for the passage of non-consensual condom removal legislation.

Let's get started.

Please to be joined this afternoon by Alexander Brodsky and Emma Schwartz.

We're to have a discussion today about stealthing and about a term you may not have heard,

rape adjacent.

What does that mean?

Let me start with you, Alexandra.

Sure.

And thanks so much for having us and for hosting this conversation.

You know, the term I think is used to refer to forms of sexual violence that people experience all the time, but might not be recognized as forms of violence,

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