‘Have you ever had to collect your kid from the battlefield?’
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2023
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
A mother’s quest to bring her dead son home. Anastasiya Gribanova from the BBC’s Ukrainian Service has been talking to two mothers about the lengths they had to go to find the bodies of their dead sons.
Allies fail to reach an agreement over sending German-made tanks to Ukraine. We get the latest from the meeting of Western defence officials in Ramstein and hear from historian and cold war expert Sergey Radchenko on whether Russia can be defeated.
Alexei, formerly known as Jimmy or James, tells us that life in Kherson continues to be dangerous despite being liberated in November.
And Leeds-born Ukrainian, Olga, tells listener Brent to bring his mum’s knitted hats to her community centre.
Today’s episode is presented by Lucy Hockings and Vitaliy Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Clare Williamson and Luke Radcliff. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The series producer is Fiona Leach. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.8 | It's 331 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:09.4 | It is 6 p.m. here in London, and after a full day of talks in Ramstein and Germany, we |
| 0:15.0 | still don't have a decision on whether we're going to see Germany sending their leopard |
| 0:19.4 | two tanks to Ukraine. |
| 0:21.0 | Now, this is something that President Zelensky virtually begged them for when he addressed |
| 0:25.3 | leaders there earlier today. |
| 0:27.0 | I encourage you to make such decisions that can deprive Russian evil of any power. |
| 0:36.4 | You can start this policy today. |
| 0:38.9 | It is in your power to make a Ramstein of tanks not to bargain about different numbers of |
| 0:46.2 | tanks, but to open a principled supply that will stop Russian evil. |
| 0:52.6 | We had hoped to bring news of a decision by the time the pod went up, but everyone, including |
| 0:57.7 | the U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, is in the same position, all waiting on the government |
| 1:02.6 | in Berlin. |
| 1:03.6 | You may have heard the German Ministry of Defense say earlier that they've not made a |
| 1:07.8 | decision on the provision of leopard tanks. |
| 1:12.7 | What we're really focused on is making sure that Ukraine has the capability that it needs |
| 1:20.1 | to be successful right now. |
| 1:23.3 | This is a crime cost. |
| 1:24.8 | Ukraine costs from business. |
| 1:27.8 | Ukraine is an epicenter of unbearable heart, age, and pain. |
| 1:32.3 | millions of people are without heating, without water. |
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