From the ACLU, this is at Liberty.

I'm Emerson Sykes, a staff attorney here at the ACLU and your host.

It's been a dizzying few days in U.S. immigration policy.

Earlier this week, the Trump administration issued a new rule to ban most refugees arriving

through the southern border. A day later, the ACLU filed suit in federal court to block the rule.

At the same time, the president has promised widespread deportation enforcement raids, spreading fear through immigrant communities.

And despite legal setbacks, the administration continues to try to build a border wall.

Here to talk us through the latest immigration-related developments is Cecilia Wong,

deputy legal director at the ACLU and former director of the ACLU's Immigrants Rights Project.

Cecilia, thank you very much for taking time away from reviewing Supreme Court briefs to speak with us.

Welcome back to the podcast.

My pleasure. Thanks, Emerson.

So the ACLU's Immigrants Rights Project filed yet another lawsuit this week.

I think David Cole tweeted that it was episode 195 in the ACLU versus Trump.

But this one challenges the Trump administration's newest immigration rule. Can you tell us about it?

Sure. So this was, by my count, the eighth action that Donald Trump and his administration have taken against people who are seeking asylum in the United States

under U.S. and international law. So the latest move that he took was that on July 14th, 2019,

he announced that people who are coming in through the U.S.-Mexico border can't apply for asylum or won't be

eligible for asylum if they have passed through another country other than their home country

and haven't sought to get asylum in that third country.

So this new rule out of the Trump administration is

completely contrary to existing U.S. law, and especially coming on the heels of seven previous

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