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This Jungian Life Podcast

Have We Ever Really Read Jung? Sonu Shamdasani on the Collected Works Crisis

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Jung’s translator and editor for the English edition of his Collected Works took it upon himself to alter more than 60% of Jung’s ideas to make the books more marketable. Finally, this will be corrected. Sonu Shamdasani and his team at the Philemon Foundation are meticulously researching Jung’s original documents, and the results will surprise and perhaps even shock us. There was far more to Jung and his insights than we were permitted to know, and all that’s about to change. So, fellow Jungians, hold onto your hats and get ready to meet the real Carl Gustav Jung.


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0:00.0

Welcome to this Jungian life.

0:04.2

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee,

0:09.7

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

0:19.4

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee,

0:24.9

and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst,

0:31.1

and Cape Cod.

0:50.8

Thank you. So, Lisa, I hear that you recently were talking with Sunu about this big project that the Philamon Foundation is taking on.

0:57.6

They are going through the collected works with a fine-tooth comb. They seem to be challenging a lot of the editorial decisions that were made in the first round in translations.

1:04.8

So what did you find out? And by the way, let's let's let everybody know that you were just in Zurich, Switzerland,

1:13.3

for the international conference on analytical psychology and talking with Sonusham

1:22.1

Dasani, the premier historian of all things Jungian and the man responsible for bringing the red book

1:30.4

to the public.

1:32.5

Yes.

1:33.4

So what I'll say is that when we had Sonu, who is, as you said up, he's really the world's

1:41.3

leading authority on Jungian, like, hands down.

1:45.8

You know, he's kind of a rock star.

1:47.9

And we had him on the podcast.

1:49.7

It would have been in 20 or 21 when the Black Books came out, and we should link to that episode.

1:55.5

But we get a wonderful conversation with him, which I remember very well.

1:59.4

And I remember him in that conversation

2:01.3

talking about the need to reissue the collected works. And, you know, he said they need to be

2:07.9

re-edited and re-translated. And he talked about how they were, the collected works are arranged

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