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I'm your host, Damien Harris, checking in for another episode in our special series

where I sit down with people who actually know the game,

people who are close to the game, and we're going to break down how it's changing,

how it's evolving, and where the direction of the game is going.

I've been thinking a lot about how programs navigate change.

Obviously, my Alabama Crimson Tie, not looking like the old team of sorts.

And it's a little weird for me.

But today I've got a special guest, former USC quarterback, former teammate of mine in Buffalo,

quarterback Matt Barkley, to talk about how he sees USC's program and how they are changing

and where he sees this program going.

Matt, how the hell are you? It's been too long since we

talked. What is up? This is great. I'm so excited about this, dude. Talk ball, talk life. You decked

in your cardinal and gold. Yeah. You know what I mean? Dad gang. No free promo though, no free promo.

But talking some ball, let's dive into it. And first of all, so I mentioned we were in

Buffalo with Josh Allen and the bills last year. And obviously, you play quarterback. You know the

position better than 99.999% of guys like Josh Allen is the Kansas City Chiefs. I mean,

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