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Hello and welcome to your coffee house shots.

Suspectators, Daily Politics, Podcast.

I'm Ms Bahaab, and I'm joined by Kater Balls and Paul Goodman from Conservative Home,

welcome Paul. Well, Rishi Sunak has referred himself to Boris Johnson's ethics advisor

to investigate whether he followed all the rules on minister's interests,

this is Lord Geight who investigates these things.

Paul, this was inevitable, wasn't it, given the buildup of the route about Rishi Sunak's

tax status and that of his wife? I think standing back from what's happened,

the scale of the problem it represents for the Conservatives can't be underestimated because

now I'm afraid with Sunak in this position, Boris Johnson I think can now move him as Chancellor

more easily than he might have done otherwise if there's a Salary Shuffle.

But the impact of this is much bigger than that. If Boris Johnson fell over, if he was removed

by party gate, if the Conservatives decided for whatever reason to get rid of him,

they did have this shiny bright, clean successor who'd spent a lot of money and was enormously

popular waiting in the wings to perhaps take them to a fifth term and beyond. That has suddenly

all gone. You've two people at the top, one of whom is mild in party gate still, the other

whom is mild in the perception, quite unfairly, that he or his family have somehow been deliberately

avoiding tax in an evasive way. So the two top players at the top of the Tory party have

suddenly pretty much been taken out and it's not clear who else there is in the government

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