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🗓️ 3 January 2023
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Are the Conservatives heading for a period out of office, or can they confound expectations before the next General Election?
Sitting in for Matt, Patrick Maguire speaks to Tory-watchers Henry Hill, Salma Shah and pollster Patrick English. They're joined by former cabinet minister David Davis, who thinks Sunak is in with a chance but says "God help us" if Boris Johnson returns.
Plus: Finkelvitch is back, with columnists Daniel Finkelstein and David Aaronovitch discussing the similarity between rail strikes and the bakers' strikes of the 1970s and how Labour will cope with increased scrutiny and a sometimes hostile press.
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0:30.4 | Hello, you're listening to the Times Red Box Policies podcast. I'm Patrick McGuire. |
0:35.9 | Matt surely's off this week, so you've got me until Friday. Today we'll be looking |
0:40.0 | ahead to what 2023 holds for the Conservatives, but first it's our Conorist Panel, |
0:43.9 | and it was a cracker today with Thinkilvich. Danny Thinkilstein and David Aronovich up next. |
0:49.1 | Meet the Cerberus of Colomists, the Janus of Journalism, |
0:56.0 | and the ultimate political portmanteau of opinion. |
1:00.0 | Thinkilvich, with Daniel Thinkilstein and David Aronovich on Times Radio. |
1:11.2 | I don't often catch that jingle myself, because I'm always quite busy at this time. |
1:16.8 | It really is ridiculous. I see, you can't step in here and you just |
1:20.7 | dis our jingle. No, I thought I might find two sympathizers here, but maybe it plays to both |
1:27.4 | of your egos. I don't know. Good to hear from you both. Any New Year's resolutions, Danny? |
1:35.2 | I'm not a big one for news. Anyway, being Jewish, the New Year was actually in September. |
1:39.2 | Of course, of course, David. I've got so many that they're preposterous, but I can't tell you |
1:47.0 | what any of them are. Okay, good. Well, let's move on from that seasonal small talk, shall we? |
1:53.4 | And get straight into the meet on the front page of this morning's Times. A government source |
1:58.0 | tells the paper this morning that the strikes will mean a generation of passengers right off the |
2:02.4 | railways for goods. Danny, is that true? Is that just negotiating talk? |
2:09.2 | I don't think it's sort of either. I can't imagine it will have much negotiating impact. |
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