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What's going on, Packers fans? Welcome into an all new episode of the Packaday podcast. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. Can find the podcast at Packaday podcast. Super excited today as we are joined by the one and only Pete Doherty, PackersNews.com. Pete, I am so incredibly excited to discuss all things Green Bay Packers with you. But before we get there, how are you doing, my friend? I'm doing, I'm doing well. How about you? I'm doing great. It's the off season. We're just about to hit free agency as a disclaimer to everyone, as I've been giving a lot of people on these. We're recording this on February 18th in the afternoon. This is probably going to air sometime end of February. So I'm thinking next

Friday as we're recording this now. But for those out there, just know that there may have been

some things that have happened in the Packersphere. We are right after Rich Pesachia stepped down

as special teams coordinator. But Pete, it's already been an interesting offseason, lots of

coaching changes. Now Rich Pesascia stepping aside.

Any just sort of gut feel or major takeaways from the offseason so far?

Yeah, well, you know, a lot has happened because they, you know, they lost a lot of staff.

Now, I know, you know, everybody, everybody wanted them to get rid of, you know, basically everybody on their, on their staff. And so now they did, they did on defense, which is probably the side that people

didn't want to, you know, wanted to see less movement from. But, you know, I thought both Gannon and

Jim Leonard were really good candidates. I would have been really intrigued if they had hired,

if they had hired Jim Leonard that, you know, I wondered if he's, if he's like a star in the making.

But Gannon, I think, you know, was a really good candidate, too. So I've got to think their,

their defensive hands are, their defense is at least in pretty decent hands

there with that hire. And I've got to think he would have wanted to make over the staff

to a certain degree anyway. There was probably a guy or two, LaFleur wanted to keep. But it didn't

seem like they had any qualms about losing any of these guys that they did because LaFloor runs or

Gannon runs a different defense than Halfley did so yeah the interesting ones especially in the

secondary with like ancilly and downard where i think they probably could have blocked those

those elsewhere and just didn't seem you know to care and said yep you can go wherever you want

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