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This is the Pack a Day podcast.

What's going on, Packer fans?

Welcome into an all new episode of the Packaday podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Herman.

You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL.

Appreciate you being here today.

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just keep watching every day. Always appreciate your support. It means a ton to me. Let's jump right

into our main topic, though. And that topic is going to be how we define this Packer season as

of right now. Is this already a success? Have they already basically

achieved what they set out to achieve in 2023 with what we've seen this year already? We'll

dive into that a little bit more in just a second. Or is it dependent upon how the rest of this

season goes? It's an interesting conversation. There's no easy answer. Everyone's going to have a

little bit of a different experience and a different expectation of what success is. So those are going to be

tough things to define. But I'll go over kind of my evaluation of this season so far. And it goes without

saying that this game, this upcoming weekend is a massive game. It's the difference between a winning

season and a losing season. It's the opportunity to stop having back-to-back losing seasons

for the first time since Mike McCarthy was fired. It's the opportunity to win a game against

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