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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Have Republicans Betrayed the Working Class?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

Journalism, New York Times, Ross Douthat, News, Society & Culture

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2019

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Is anti-Zionism just another form of anti-Semitism? Michelle and special guest Bret Stephens debate liberal critiques of Israel and the future of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Then, is Tucker Carlson really a populist? Bret and Ross discuss what the Fox News host’s recent anti-elite turn says about the G.O.P. And finally, why David wants to make American football more Canadian. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.2

I'm Ross Douthit.

0:02.4

I'm David Leonhardt.

0:03.5

And this is the argument.

0:05.5

This week, Brett Stevens,

0:07.7

he, Michelle and I are going to talk about Israel.

0:10.3

Specifically, about whether anti-zionism is the same thing

0:13.8

as anti-Semitism.

0:15.5

Brett says yes.

0:16.6

Michelle says no.

0:18.1

I get to moderate.

0:19.0

I mean, what kind of resistance would you see as acceptable?

0:21.6

Then Ross and Brett will spar over a debate

0:23.9

that's been raging in conservative circles lately.

0:26.5

Has the Republican Party betrayed the working class?

0:30.2

Your favorite president, Donald Trump.

0:32.0

Right.

0:32.5

He's your favorite president.

0:33.3

He's somebody's favorite president.

0:34.3

And finally, of course, a recommendation.

0:36.6

This is literally the worst recommendation

0:38.8

you've ever made, David.

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