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Unchained

Have Crypto Detectives Killed the Cypherpunk Dream? - Ep. 461

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Andy Greenberg, senior writer for WIRED and author of “Tracers in the Dark,” takes us inside the world of crypto-tracing crimebusters and voices the ambivalence of Bitcoin – a cypherpunk creation – eroding financial privacy. Hear how the longtime crypto scribe got law enforcement and sleuthing firms like Chainalysis to open up about their major wins in taking down darknet kingpins. Show highlights: why Andy thought early on that Bitcoin would enable crypto anarchy how blockchain analytics started being used to tackle crime why the IRS Criminal Investigation unit was more open to discussing its techniques  how Andy learned many new things about already well-known stories when writing about them for the book the methods used to bring down the “biggest dark-web drug lord” in history did AlphaBay’s Alexandre Cazes really kill himself in a Thai prison? how researcher Sarah Meiklejohn developed tools to deanonymize Bitcoin  why she’s now uncomfortable that her techniques were adopted by Chainalysis and sold to law enforcement what Andy feels about the importance of privacy how Monero is harder to trace than Bitcoin but not untraceable what the impact of zero-knowledge technology will be for blockchain analytics firms whether the cypherpunk ethos is dead why the mystery of Satoshi Nakamoto’s identity will never die Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com FTSE Halborn NYU Guest Andy Greenberg, senior writer for WIRED and author of “Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency” Twitter Writings for WIRED Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency Links: WIRED: The Hunt for the Kingpin Behind AlphaBay, Part 1: The Shadow The Hunt for the Kingpin Behind AlphaBay, Part 2: Pimp_alex_91 The Hunt for the Kingpin Behind AlphaBay, Part 3: Alpha Male  De-Anonymization in Bitcoin with Sarah Meiklejohn | a16z crypto research talks Wikipedia: Welcome to Video case Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I mean, the cypherpunk vision of cryptocurrency is nearly dead.

0:04.8

As I've said, it's kind of like it turned out to be the opposite.

0:07.6

It was extremely regular, traceable, transparent.

0:12.9

It's not at all the crypto and arctic world of finance

0:16.0

that a lot of people hoped it was going to be.

0:23.3

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained, your no hype resource for all things crypto.

0:27.1

I'm your host, Laura Shin.

0:28.8

Author of the Cryptopians.

0:30.4

I started covering crypto seven years ago,

0:32.3

and as the senior editor Forbes was the first

0:34.5

mainstream media reporter to cover cryptocurrency full-time.

0:37.2

This is the February 28th, 2023 episode of Unchained.

0:41.2

Bridging out from just being a podcast, Unchained has launched a new website,

0:45.1

complete with more breaking crypto news,

0:46.8

education articles for those just getting started,

0:49.1

how-to guides and videos.

0:50.8

Check it out at UnchainedCrypto.com to find answers to all your crypto questions.

0:56.0

We have three projects lost nearly $4 billion of crypto assets in 2022,

1:01.2

but nothing is more expensive than losing trust.

1:03.9

Secure your company with Halborn's best-in-class security advisory solutions.

1:08.3

Visit Halborn.com for more.

1:11.2

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