I'm Nicole Lappin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand.

It's time for some money rehab. Yesterday you heard from one of my favorite comedians ever, my pal Josh Johnson.

In that conversation Josh talked about everything you ever wanted to know about the business of comedy.

Well today I'm going to expand on that conversation with Ryan Kaleel.

Ryan used to be a football player. He primarily played with the Carolina Panthers and was a three-time all pro.

Now Ryan is in the production world.

Ryan founded the production company Mortal Media with basketball player Blake Griffin.

He explains the players in the media world now and how you can get your big idea

to the silver screen as well. Ryan Taleo, welcome to Money Rehab.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm stoked to talk to you for many reasons, but the first one is that I think production companies kind of play a role of a black box in this crazy entertainment world.

Recently, a little clip of this wonderful podcast was licensed for the Netflix

doc on Johnny Depp and people are like so cool you got a check from Netflix but I didn't

I got a check from the production company. But I didn't. I got a check from the production company.

So I would love to break this down for folks

and use mortal media.

The production company started with Blake Griffin

as an example, if you don't mind.

So can you give us a kind of description

of what the production company does?

Well, there's no one size fits all,

and they're all sort of different.

It depends on who's running them.

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