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🗓️ 16 March 2023
⏱️ 28 minutes
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In 2016, U.S. government officials began reporting a mysterious set of symptoms. They first appeared in Havana, but then showed up in other countries around the world. In a podcast for Vice World News, reporters Adam Entous and Jon Lee Anderson explain everything they’ve learned about what’s now commonly called Havana syndrome, and why the U.S. still can’t explain what causes it. On this week’s episode of Apple News In Conversation, Entous and Anderson discuss their reporting with host Shumita Basu.
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0:19.4 | show. This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Shimita Basso. Today, what we know and still don't know about Havana Syndrome. |
0:33.0 | At the end of December 2016, an undercover CIA officer we're calling Tony, that's not his real name, was at home in Havana, Cuba, where he was stationed. He was laying on his bed, |
0:55.8 | watching an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, just unwinding after work, |
1:01.6 | when this sound blasted into his bedroom. |
1:05.0 | It was so loud and so specific he decided to record it. |
1:09.0 | And it just ratcheted up and it got really uncomfortable. |
1:13.6 | It started very, very loud, like ear piercingly loud. |
1:16.5 | And then I thought, okay, well, this is obnoxious |
1:19.1 | because you can't hear the show anymore. As an American spy stationed in Cuba, Tony knew that he was always being watched. |
1:28.0 | He was determined to not show any signs of weakness. |
1:31.0 | So he stayed still and he tried to look calm. But then there was the |
1:35.2 | physiological pain and so the pressure started in the head and then the |
1:39.3 | discomfort in the ear. You know I just picture those old wood vices in, you know, shop class in high school, right? |
1:44.8 | It just felt like someone was just turning that, my head was in it. |
1:48.1 | Then the severe severe ear pain started. |
1:51.4 | He tried putting a pillow over his head. It did nothing. |
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