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Better Offline

Hater Season: Openclaw with David Gerard

Better Offline

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

Technology

4.6687 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In the first episode of Better Offline’s “Hater Season” - an ongoing roundtable with tech’s greatest haters - Ed is joined by David Gerard of Pivot to AI to talk about Openclaw/Clawdbot/Moltbot, how seemingly smart people keep being “one-shotted” by AI, and why we’ve been headed toward a calamity in the markets since 2008.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:06.6

CoolZone media.

0:10.3

Greetings and salutations.

0:12.6

And welcome to Better Offline.

0:14.1

I'm your host, Ed Zittron.

0:33.8

Better Offer. I'm not going to talk about Judy. In fact, we're not going to talk about Judy at all. We're going to keep her out of it because today it's hater season.

0:38.4

When I bring on some of the most esteemed haters in the tech industry to talk about stuff we're pissed off about. And today we're talking about goddamn Claudebot, open clawed

0:43.3

malt bot or whatever these goddamn people are talking about. And today we're joined to talk about it

0:48.9

by David Gerard of Pivot to AI. David, how you doing? I'm doing marvellously, Ed.

0:55.4

So what is this crap? Because I've seen all manner of different perverts and vagabonds and

1:02.8

stuff on Twitter talking about Claudebot. And just walk me through what the hell this is.

1:09.3

Well, your first mistake is looking at Twitter because Maltbot is an idea as an AI assistant,

1:17.7

an AI personal assistant where you tell a chatbot to be your personal assistant.

1:23.7

And it's a whole framework to get it to be your personal assistant.

1:27.3

And it doesn't work, but it doesn't work in such an interesting and tempting manner

1:32.0

if your brain has been permanently curdled by chatbots.

1:36.7

So how does it work, though?

1:39.0

Why are people buying Mac minis?

1:42.0

So they want the personal assistant without actually having to use a human person who might

1:49.3

have opinions on them.

1:52.0

So you can spend like $100, $200, $300 a day on this thing just on anthropic tokens.

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