What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to Off the Chain, simply the best podcasting crypto. Let's kick this thing off.

In this conversation, I talk with Haseeb Qureshi, formerly of Metastable Capital. We discuss how success metrics for blockchain protocols are different than

traditional companies, why narratives follow rather than lead, how to think about the smart

contract wars, and why Bitcoin holders are so important. I really enjoyed this conversation.

Haseeb is incredibly intelligent, and I hope you enjoy it as well.

Anthony Pompliano is a partner at Morgan

Creek Digital. All opinions expressed by Pomp or his guests on this podcast are solely their

opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Morgan Creek Digital or Morgan Creek Capital

Management. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp as a specific inducement to make a

particular investment or follow

a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his opinion. This podcast is for informational

purposes only. All right, guys, bang, bang. I'm here with Haseeb. It is a Thursday of

blockchain week. So everyone is still surviving.

Thanks for coming in this morning and doing this.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

For sure.

All right, so for those that don't know, maybe let's go over your background first

so you can kind of understand your perspective and they'll get into some of the things I'll talk about.

Totally.

So I'll give you a very short version of my background.

So before I ever got into the tech industry industry I used to be a professional poker player did

that for about five years were you any good I was pretty good I was a sponsored by

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