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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Has Twitter warped politics?

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

Politics, News, Government

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Can Twitter carry a politician to victory in an election? Playbook co-author Eugene Daniels and deputy editor Zack Stanton talk to Republican digital strategist Eric Wilson, former Andrew Yang presidential campaign manager Zach Graumann, and Aaron Smith, director of the Pew Research Center’s Datalab, about the role of social media in political campaigns and the limitations of the platforms. Eugene Daniels is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Zack Stanton is Playbook's deputy editor.Zach Graumann was the campaign manager for Andrew Yang presidential run.Eric Wilson is a Republican digital strategist.Aaron Smith is the director of the Pew Research Center's Data Lab.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.Carlos Prieto is a producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is the senior producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Here's a fun story.

0:02.2

I got off a flight.

0:03.4

You know, you have a flight where you're hoping the Y-File work

0:06.2

and it just doesn't, you know, I got a gosh.

0:07.9

And like, on campaigns, that's horrible.

0:09.6

And especially in like a role like a campaign manager,

0:12.1

like, oh my gosh, what am I going to miss?

0:14.0

And I landed and I've got the Daily Beast texting me

0:17.3

and being like, why is Andrew texting about circumcision?

0:20.9

The year is 2019.

0:23.2

Zach Garmin is Andrew Yang's campaign manager

0:26.0

and he just got off a flight to find out his candidate,

0:29.2

Andrew Yang, is going viral.

0:31.8

But not the way his strategist had hoped.

0:34.6

And I was like, why am I getting this text message right now?

0:37.4

Like, same time, like, this is hilarious.

0:39.0

I'm writing a piece on it and I was like, oh, man.

0:41.0

I guess we're going with circumcision now.

0:43.8

I'm Eugene Daniels and this is Playbook Deep Dive.

0:49.2

Sometimes I think of something that is too good

0:52.0

not to show the world, like how great my nails are

0:55.5

or I guess might take on a policy or something.

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