Has Trump turned his back on Europe?
The News Agents
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4.1 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 13 February 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump's first stab at a deal on Ukraine appears to have gone very well - for Russia. During a 90 minute phone call with Putin they started to lay out the terms. Including a veto on Ukraine joining NATO and an understanding that Ukraine would never reclaim Crimea. The phone call with Zelensky did not come until afterwards. European leaders are up in arms at being left out of the conversation and can’t work out why Trump is conceding to Putin before he’s even stopped his illegal invasion. Is Trump 'the deal maker' just not actually very good at making deals? And has he profoundly given up on the West and its defence?
Later, what does the Munich terror attack presage for the forthcoming German election? Is it making life for the anti immigrant parties much easier?
And which toddler dared to tell Trump he was not actually the President?
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.0 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:12.6 | There is no betrayal there. |
| 0:14.7 | There is a recognition that the whole world and the United States is invested and interested in peace. A negotiated peace. |
| 0:23.3 | As President Trump has said, stopping the killing. That was the U.S. Defense Secretary, Pete |
| 0:29.1 | Hegeseth, saying there had been no concession to Putin from Donald Trump. But peace, of course, |
| 0:36.3 | is a funny word. Everyone wants peace and everyone wants the |
| 0:41.5 | killing in Ukraine to stop. But at what cost? And is Donald Trump really the best person to make a deal? |
| 0:49.4 | It seems that Donald Trump has already conceded that Ukraine will not join NATO. |
| 0:55.7 | He has also conceded that Ukraine will not get all its territory back. |
| 1:00.7 | So if those concessions have already been made without any negotiation having started, |
| 1:07.2 | how much more does Vladimir Putin have to gain? |
| 1:09.9 | Welcome to the newsagents. |
| 1:13.6 | The Newsagents. |
| 1:15.4 | It's John. It's Emily. It's Lewis. |
| 1:17.6 | And in the past 24 hours in dizzying Washington, D.C., we've had a big statement from the US |
| 1:23.9 | Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth about US priorities. Spoiler alert, Europe isn't a |
| 1:31.4 | priority for the US and Western security not a priority. China is. And we also had Donald Trump |
| 1:38.6 | holding a 90-minute phone call with Vladimir Putin, which sounds like it couldn't have been sweeter. |
| 1:45.9 | And after that call, oh, I rang up Zelensky to tell him what we'd sort of sort it out, |
| 1:50.7 | which kind of gave you a real indication of the power breaking that is going on |
| 1:57.0 | and what that must feel like if you're the Ukrainian leader, not great. |
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