Has Trump given up on Ukraine?
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🗓️ 15 April 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
The night after one of the deadliest attacks on Ukrainian civilians since Putin's invasion, the American President has gone all block caps, tweeting: 'I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WAR'. He's clearly a bit rattled. He'd been briefed over the weekend - following talks between his own envoy and Putin - that a ceasefire was significantly nearer. Things, he told us on Saturday, were heading in the right direction.
That was before Putin dropped his missiles on Sumy, a bustling city going to church on Palm Sunday. So does Donald Trump have no idea of Putin's mindset or moves? And should this tell us he has no way to bring about a ceasefire? We speak to the Ukrainian MP and youngest governor of Odessa Solomiia Bobrovska.
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| 0:12.6 | Have you spoken to President Zelensky's serve out his offer to purchase more Patriot missile batteries? |
| 0:17.8 | He's always looking to purchase missiles, you know. He's against, listen, when you start a war, you've got to know that you can win the war, right? |
| 0:25.6 | You don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles. |
| 0:31.8 | On the day after Russia dropped two Exander missiles on a market city of Sumi on a sunny Palm Sunday targeting churchgoers and |
| 0:40.1 | residents and people on public transport, killing more than 30 and injuring 120 others. The thing |
| 0:46.4 | you've really got to understand is it is Biden's fault, it is Zelensky's fault, and Trump |
| 0:51.9 | had nothing whatsoever to do with this war. |
| 0:54.6 | And when he says, when you start a war, you've got to know that you can win a war, |
| 0:59.2 | just for the record, it wasn't 150,000 Ukrainian troops massing on the Russian border. |
| 1:06.1 | It was the other way round. So if America is not going to be an honest broker for peace, then who the |
| 1:14.3 | hell is? Welcome to the newsagents. The Newsagents. It's John. It's Emily. It's Lewis. |
| 1:24.1 | And Donald Trump was in the White House with the El Salvadorian president, and he is sounding |
| 1:30.7 | off. |
| 1:31.1 | He is opining. |
| 1:32.2 | He is freewheeling, doing what he loves doing, which is to have the reporters in, the Oval Office, |
| 1:37.0 | and he just gives his views. |
| 1:38.4 | And it is absolutely clear, as if it hadn't been clearish until now, that the person he blames most for the war |
| 1:46.4 | in Ukraine is Joe Biden, and then second, Volodymyr Zelensky. And it's just a kind of |
| 1:53.8 | total rewriting of history that you're getting. And also this profound sense that whatever the talking point is in Russia is now the |
| 2:05.6 | talking point in the White House as well. |
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