Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

Can you digger?

Please, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought you by the

Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

If I am talking too quickly, it's only because I want to get to our guest today.

Longtime friend, former colleague,

a frequent guest on here and fan favorite in a sort of,

it's really fun to play with a toothache, indulge your, eore kind of sensibility kind of thing.

And I don't mean Nick Catogeo, who we still have not managed to get on here.

I mean, of course, Ross Douthit of the New York Times. And, of course, in the old days, you know, now he's hit cruising speed or cruising altitude. And he's now a fixture of the elite firmament. I've flatlined is what you're saying. That's right. You're not descending. It's just like you don't have further to go. There's no more lift. That's right.

But when you were rising fast and was such a big deal that you got in New York Times column,

for years, I always insisted on calling you purely National Review Film Reviewer, who also has a column in the New York Times, Ross Douthit. So, and you still write reviews for NR, right? That's right. I still answer to that description. Project Hail Mary next issue, I hope. I still have to see it. I'm very looking for it. I have to take my kids to it maybe this weekend. We'll see. I'm happy to return to this stuff. But, you know, let's talk about the very important stuff, Jonah.

Before, I do want to talk to you, and people have asked me to have you on to talk about

our slight disagreement about the future of conservatism and whatnot.

But before we get there, just kind of curious, what's, how's your war going?

Every day that the United States is in a bad situation and the global economy is facing gas shortages,

fertilizer shortages, everything else, and the Iranian government is holding a critical chokepoint of global commerce hostage.

That's a day that the advent of

SkyNet is delayed, Jonah. And so, you know, that's, that's when I, when I sit here, when I sit

here watching events in the Middle East, I went straight from sort of taking a deep bath in

AI stuff, that that was sort of the focus of most of what I was reading,

at least some of what I was talking to people about, to the Iran War.

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