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Has the World Finally Decided To Stand up to Trump?

Pod Save the World

Pod Save the World

Politics, News

4.825.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

Tommy and Ben explain why Trump backed off his threat to take Greenland by force and debate whether European leaders have finally found a playbook for how to push back, the backlash to Trump’s disgraceful denigration of NATO troops and their service in Afghanistan, and Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney’s bold attempt to break from the United States and forge a new international order. Then they cover the purge of top military leaders in China and widespread rumors of a coup attempt against Chinese President Xi Jinping, Jared Kushner’s much-derided PowerPoint presentation on the future of Gaza, new details about how the Iranian regime crushed the recent protests and why there may now be an even greater likelihood that the US bombs Iran (again), a humiliating and terrifying profile of Kash Patel’s first year at the FBI, and why a real estate forum in Saudi Arabia made us want to cry. Then Tommy speaks with Kenneth Rosen, author of Polar War: Submarines, Spies, and the Struggle for Power in a Melting Arctic, about why the Arctic is becoming a geopolitical flashpoint. Subscribe to Ben’s Substack here

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Welcome back to Pod Save the World. I'm Tommy Vitor.

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I'm Ben Rhodes.

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Patriots.

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Going to the Super Bowl, Ben.

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My New England Patriots.

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You know, congratulations. I have a lot of admiration.

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But by the lizard, just skip forward.

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