Has the US Slipped into Fascism?
Amanpour
CNN
4.1 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 29 August 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to Ammanpur. Here's what's coming up. |
| 0:07.0 | So the line is that I'm a dictator, but I stop crime. |
| 0:12.0 | As Donald Trump defends his so-called crime crackdown, I asked journalist and historian Garrett Graf, |
| 0:18.0 | how much more pressure American democracy can take. Then, it's the sound of the people today. |
| 0:24.6 | Grammy Award-winning artist Jean Batiste tells me about his genre-defying new album, Big Money, |
| 0:29.9 | and how he's reclaiming American music. Plus, there are many parts of New Orleans that have never |
| 0:35.8 | recovered. Two decades on from Hurricane Katrina, what lessons have we learned? |
| 0:40.3 | We revisit Christian's conversation with award-winning director John Whitley, |
| 0:45.3 | examining the medical response to the disaster. |
| 0:48.3 | The Welcome to the program, everyone. I'm Biona Gola Grigga in New York, sitting in for Christiana Amunpore. |
| 1:17.3 | Armed troops on the streets of Washington, D.C., and threats from the U.S. president that more cities will soon follow. |
| 1:24.3 | President Trump is ramping up his anti-crime agenda with immigration raids across the country and deportations surging. |
| 1:29.1 | And Trump's critics are increasingly in the firing line as the administration seeks to bend the U.S. legal system to its will. There's also a grinding assault on America's cultural |
| 1:34.5 | institutions, with the White House demanding to vet future exhibitions at D.C.'s renowned Smithsonian |
| 1:40.2 | museums and research centers. It's a weight of evidence that has many asking, is the world's |
| 1:46.0 | leading democracy losing the fight to protect its founding democratic values? My next guest says |
| 1:52.7 | that the answer is clear and that the United States has already slipped into fascism. |
| 1:57.8 | Garrett Graf is an author and historian and joins me from Vermont. Garrett, it is good to see you, |
| 2:03.3 | quite chilling to hear these words from you. You are not known for hyperbole and faux outrage. So the |
| 2:10.6 | fact that you are sounding the alarm now and the fact that you have said that this has been a pivotal |
| 2:14.8 | week in what you've concluded has been the U.S. term to fascism |
| 2:19.2 | really speaks volumes. What specifically about this current environment in this week that we're in |
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