No, I'll king. Hey Sean. This weekend. Did you notice that the march for our lives returned?

I did notice yes. Did you hear much about it being you know a protest that happened all across this country of ours?

No that I didn't know. I guess the past few weeks and maybe the past month has had me wondering if

the gun control movement in this country is

a failure. I mean it doesn't seem like a success.

So on the show today, I thought we'd ask someone who's been studying this movement for decades and a guy who's been a part of it for decades

to see how they feel about it and it's part of something we're going to try and do this week on the show is just

understand this issue of guns in America, understand it through the protest movement, understand it constitutionally,

understand it politically because there might actually be some action in the coming weeks.

Very cool. I am looking forward to learning something.

It's today explained I'm Sean Ramos firm and as I told Noel at the top of the show, I've been wondering if the gun control movement in the United States is

a failed effort or

maybe I've been wondering if it just could be more persistent if the march for our lives had been

happening every year, every month, every week instead of once and then again four years later, could there have been more

tangible change on today explained we're going to ask a couple of people who've been studying and

participating in this movement for decades starting with

Kristen Goss when we told people we wanted to assess the gun control movement, everyone told us to speak to

Kristen Goss. I am a professor of public policy and political science at the Sanford School of Public Policy at Duke University.

Kristen's been watching the gun control movement for decades.

Out of Columbine, I wrote a PhD dissertation which became a book about the challenges that gun violence prevention advocates have in organizing a mass movement and

the subtitle of that book was the missing movement for gun control in America and that book came out in 2006.

And she's got a surprising answer to the question of whether the gun control movement has just sort of failed.

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