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Has Starmer killed Welsh Labour?

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🗓️ 17 February 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Eluned Morgan, the first minister of Wales speaks to Megan Kenyon about her relationship with Keir Starmer, Welsh Labour’s prospects in the upcoming Senedd election and the threat of Plaid Cymru and Reform.

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0:00.0

The New Statesman.

0:05.8

Today I travelled down to Cardiff to meet Eleanor Morgan, the First Minister of Wales.

0:11.0

In a wide-ranging interview, we spoke about her relationship with Kirstama, following the events of last week,

0:17.4

Welsh Labour's prospects in the upcoming Senate election and the threat of Plaid

0:21.4

Cumbry and reform.

0:23.4

This is Daily Politics from the New Statesman.

0:26.0

I'm Megan Kenyon.

0:28.2

We're speaking after what was a very turbulent week for the government last week.

0:34.1

I think probably the most turbulent I've seen since I've sort of been a political

0:37.6

journalist covering this Labour government. And your opposite number in Scotland, Anna Sawa,

0:44.4

basically called on Kirstama to resign. There was speculation you might choose to do so as well,

0:49.5

but you didn't. I wondered why you chose to stand by Kirstama.

0:56.0

I'm focused on the needs of Wales.

0:58.9

And I think what Wales needs at the moment is stability and investment.

1:04.8

And I think you're more likely to get that if you've got a stable government.

1:08.7

And I think that we've had enough of chopping and changing, prime ministers under the Tories.

1:14.2

And my job is to focus on the day job of being first minister.

1:18.9

I'm in a different position from Annas.

1:22.0

And my role in particular on that day was to chair the cabinet meeting. I was getting on with

1:29.9

the day job and that's what I'm focused on. People keep on trying to drag me into the goings-on

1:38.5

in Westminster. I've got enough to do here without being a 24-hour commentator on what's happening in London.

1:47.5

And did you have any idea that Anna Sarwal was going to make that statement?

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