Has Starmer become the PM we need?
The Two Matts
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4.4 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 13 March 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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The past two weeks have been good for Keir Starmer. As Tom Baldwin writes in this week’s New European, he has fallen back on his core qualities; a kind of radical relentlessness. The Matts assess his performance and ask if Starmer is ready to throw off the Labour obsession with appeasing the so-called red wall and instead embrace Labour’s natural audience: Us! In the first part, the Matts discuss the latest news from the ongoing Ukraine sell-out. Enjoy!
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| 1:03.4 | Hello and happy Thursday. Happy Thursday, one and all. Hope you enjoying your week so |
| 1:06.8 | far. Absolutely. So we're going to talk about two big topics today. |
| 1:14.3 | One is going to be around the chronic Ukraine-Russia situation. |
| 1:15.4 | Yep, we'll kick off with that. |
| 1:18.6 | And then in the second half, I'm going to talk about Keir Starmer. |
| 1:18.8 | Yep. |
| 1:22.4 | And we're going to talk a bit about the NHS England decision. That's just broken today. |
| 1:23.3 | Very big announcement. |
| 1:24.4 | But we'll kick off with Ukraine. |
| 1:26.0 | Yeah, let's have a quick blast of this is |
| 1:27.8 | Trump in the Oval Office on Tuesday with Mikhail Martin, the Irish Taoiseach, and he talks a little bit |
| 1:34.0 | about what he might do to force Russia into a ceasefire. I can do things financially that |
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