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Hello and welcome to Coffey House shots, the Spectators Daily Politics

Podcast.

I'm Oskredinson and I'm joined today by James Heel and Sophia Gaston, who is the head of foreign

policy at Policy Exchange.

So it's been a pretty good 48 hours for the new Prime Minister, not only a fantastic result in the football, but he's also had some wins at the NATO summit.

In particular NATO members have pledged their support for an irreversible path to future membership

for Ukraine, which is something that he called for as leader of the opposition, and he's also

had some positive photo opportunities with President Biden.

Sophia, is it fair to say that this has been a pretty successful NATO summit for the new PM?

It has, and I think this is partly why the decision to hold the election at the time that it was was so perplexing for us in the

foreign policy community because of course if the polls were right and they were and

label was on course for victory meant that you know in week one

stama goes to Washington and then you've also got the European political community

summit coming up a week later.

So two kind of moments to show yourself as a statesman

right off the bat and also dealing with

our most important relationships there in the US and Europe, the kind of

key ones that Starmer and his team have put at the heart of their agenda.

So I think that's always been a strange aspect of this election timing and I think

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