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Coffee House Shots

Has Liz Truss had her first stumble?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Daily News, Politics

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Liz Truss has U-turned on a public worker pay plan announced just last night – the idea being that pay would reflect the cost of living in regional areas. What made her backtrack on the announcement? And how damaging has this been to her campaign?

'Any discussion of lowering pay right now is politically intolerable. Timing matters a lot here' - Kate Andrews.

Also on the podcast, Kate and James discuss the political tensions behind 'fat cat' pay and windfall taxes on the day BP announce its largest profit in 14 years.

Cindy Yu is joined by Kate Andrews and James Forsyth.
Produced by Natasha Feroze.

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Today has been quite a confusing moment of new policy and then a quick e-turn.

0:36.6

Perhaps it can just catch us up today.

0:38.6

It's currently just past 1pm.

0:41.6

So yeah, we've had some really fast changes.

0:44.6

It's taken about 15 hours for the Liz Trust campaign to you turn on a pretty big announcement

0:51.6

that it wanted to do a robust reform of public sector pay.

0:55.7

And the idea was that she wanted to do an overhaul of national pay bargaining and allow

1:00.8

this to be devolved.

1:02.2

So the idea is that depending on how much it costs to live in your specific region, you

1:08.7

may be paid more or less.

1:11.0

This is something that Liz Trust has been looking at for a long time.

1:13.8

This is not something new.

1:16.0

It's something she's considered for a while.

1:18.2

There are merits to discussing this.

1:20.6

The reasons that trust brings up are some of them, but I think they're more sympathetic

1:24.4

reasons too.

1:25.4

For example, if your local area is really lacking in certain skill sets or certain staff,

1:29.9

you could say decide to increase what you're going to pay people in order to recruit

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