Hello and welcome to Not Another One, the podcast with me Steve Richards, Ian Martin, Miranda Green and Tim Montgomery.

And we're recording this soon after Keir Starrmer's speech which was

billed as pivotal at the Labour Party conference they're all billed as pivotal

but we all know the reasons why this one seemed to have a kind of aura of high

stakes around it Tim can't make it but we're all here to give our analysis. And I'll start off

if it's okay with the two of you. I thought by some margin it was the best speech he has delivered

to a Labour conference as leader. And in a curious way, reform, although clearly a huge threat, given their opinion poll rating, to the fate of this government, I think he, for all kinds of reasons, the trauma of the summer, where he read out of speech which had been written for him, which he then had to disown partly the phrase about an island of strangers.

The Avlib in the Laura Coonsberg interview where he referred to Farage's immigration policy announced last week as racist.

Instead of causing caution, almost kind of liberated him.

And more widely, reform, I think, is for Stama,

ironically, given at the moment their forecast to win the next election,

is an opponent more suited to Stama's character than the Conservative Party that often he struggled with.

I know he slaughtered them at the election, but he was always unclear, I think, of how to frame arguments.

The Blairites were saying praise Margaret Thatcher.

He both condemned the Tory record whilst not changing it very much at the election.

But reformed, he seemed to have found a voice today, his voice, in the sort of sweeping attempt

to create another Britain than the one that Farage is portraying.

And I thought it was effective.

I thought the arguments were clear.

He seemed relaxed and genuine.

But what did you think?

Ian, what was your view?

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