Now this is arguably I think been the most disastrous week for Israel in terms of its quote-unquote

international standing since its foundation. We've had the International Criminal Court Chief Prosecutor issue requests for a response against its leadership.

We've had three European nations on top of those who've already done so, recognizing the state of Palestine, and we now have the International Court of Justice issuing provisional orders, more orders demanding Israel ceases actions, military actions in Raffer, as well as

unimpeded UN fact-finding missions and to open the Raffer crossing, which is

obviously crucial for humanitarian aid. Now I really want to talk about the significance of what

the ICJ in particular means. I'm going to talk about the ICC and all the stuff as

well but I'm really delighted to be joined by highly Matthews assistant professor of law

Osgood Hall School, York University specialises in Law of War and particularly looking at questions of genocide.

I've been following Heidi's work all the way through this horror, and he's been a lifeline

for so many of us.

So thank you, Heidi, for your brilliant work,

and it's an honor for you to talk to you.

Well, it's okay.

Lovely to be here.

Well, I just want your first general take to

in the International Court of Justice ruling.

Yeah, so this has just been with us for a few hours, so those of us in the nerdy international court of justice universe are kind of sitting with it, reading

the majority opinion, but notably some appended declarations by the judges. We could talk about that as well because it's part of the Israeli government's spin on what this order actually constitutes.

So I'll give the kind of simple version, which I think is very difficult to upend of what the court said but the basic the basic reading here is that the court made the factual finding that Israel's attempts or efforts,

Israel itself called these extraordinary efforts

at ensuring both adequate provision of humanitarian aid and assistance, so that would be, you know, food,

medicine, water, fuel, all of that, shelter, etc, to the population as well as efforts to minimize

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