97-1. Happy holidays, everybody. Continue the conversation. RICO's very negative, so he asked the question. I'm just along for the ride. Is this the beginning of the end for the Detroit Lions? And we've been talking about it. Hey, before we go back to the phones, but David, can we hear the cut? This is Dan Campbell from this morning, and we've talked about this for a second.

Stony asked them about the fourth down conversion in the first quarter. His answer kind of took

took me a back. Take a listen.

Hundred of a hundred times. Now, he did say where we were at. So maybe he's back in the five-yard line instead of the three. Maybe he has a different decision. Early in the game. Take the field goal. Kick the field goal. Take the points because you don't know what's going to happen. And hindsight's 20-crant. You would have won. It would have been a walk-off. We're not feeling this way. I'm not doing this negative topic. You're not feeling like this. Because the team is still in the playoff hunt. Well, the other thing, too, by the way, is anybody that's upset at the so-called negative topic, they do it to themselves. If you don't make the playoffs, expectations were to go to the freaking Super Bowl, then you got to talk about it. You just don't get a pass. You got to talk about what went wrong. Every year. I'm tired. I didn't mean to cut you off. Here's the thing. Everybody had high expectations going into this year. As I told you, if I were tell you, if we go back in time and I told you after the Ravens game, where you're

feeling like, oh, this team, we all thought this was a Super Bowl winning team.

And I said, this is the high point of the season, right here.

Enjoy this moment because everything else is downhill.

Nobody would have believed me.

3830 victory on Monday night football.

Everybody was so ecstatic. And when you think of it like that, it's kind of got to be like the Colts felt. The Colts at one point are like 8-1, a shoe-in for the postseason, a shoe-in for the one seed. And now look at them. Your Niners knocked them out yesterday and out of the post-season and their season's over. Right. So before we go back to the phones, I have a question for you.

Because we played the Campbell audio.

And people are upset with Holmes, too, for good a reason.

It's been a while now.

They want him to do more.

Of the two men, have both guys been tarnished a little bit?

Has one guy been tarnished or has neither been tarnished in the overall fan perspective's

mind?

I think both.

I do too.

I think more Brad, of course.

In order for Dan to be tarnished, that means that you've officially given up because he is, he's the face of the program.

He is what we see.

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