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Hello and welcome to Coffee How Shots and Spectators daily politics podcast.

I'm Katie Pauls and I'm joined by Isabel Hardman and Professor Sir John Curtis,

political scientist, currently professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde,

senior research fellow and that's in social research and also UK and a changing Europe.

Now it's the morning after the night before in terms of fixed parenting notices being

dished out to not just Boris Johnson, his wife Carrie Johnson but also the Chancellor of Rishisunak.

And is it fair to say these had a fairly soft landing?

Yes so far we've only had one conservative MP calling for Boris Johnson to quit and that's

Nigel Mills who has been in the sort of awkward squad for a little while.

But largely actually the reaction of conservative MPs has been

they're quite upset privately by this but they don't think that now is going to be the time

that Boris Johnson gets removed. Some of the more loyal ones are saying you know there's a war in

Ukraine, others are just saying that there's not the grounds while a feeling in the parliamentary

party at the moment to move against him. Conversations I've had with MPs suggest that

some of them still think that there's a possibility that this might change in the coming months,

for instance, if the Prime Minister receives more fines for other events because the metropolitan

police are still investigating a lot of alleged parties that took place in Downing Street during

lockdowns. And to a certain extent the fine that was announced yesterday related to a party that

they could slightly disemble over. So we've ended up in this debate about whether it was sort of

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