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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectators' Daily Politics podcast.

I'm Isabelle Harbman and I'm joined by Katie Bulls and Fraser Nelson.

Well, we've just had a confirmation that Boris Johnson and Rishisunak and indeed

Boris Johnson's wife, Carrie, are to receive fixed penalty notices from the Metropolitan Police

over lockdown parties. Katie, just give us a few more details on what we've learnt.

Yes, so we had the news as we discussed because this is a twice-a-day podcast, you know,

it could be free depending on what happens next. We had the news that 30 more fixed plans

you noticed had been issued and now, as you say, confirmation that that includes Boris Johnson,

his wife, Carrie Johnson and the chancellor. Now, of the three, I think the most surprising

is Rishisunak. We know that the incident relating to Rishisunak is the birthday cake meeting

where Boris Johnson was presented with a cake some reports it was by his wife, Carrie Johnson

and Rishisunak was there, they ate cake, I think there was some happy birthday singing and that

was only one relating to Rishisunak. I think, therefore, there was the sense that the

chancellor was less likely, still was possible because we knew you had a questionnaire to receive

a fine whereas Boris Johnson was facing more charges in terms of various events that had been

referred and were being looked at by Sue Gray. In terms of where this goes, I mean, I think

is an interesting one. It does feel as though, you know, two months ago, we were talking about

Boris Johnson receiving a fine as there was no way for a Tory Prime Minister to get away with that

that would be the end of Boris Johnson. We are just in the immediate aftermath of this, but

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