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Hello everyone and welcome to Indycast on the show we talk about the biggest indie news of the week, review albums, and we hash out trends.

In this episode we talk about Death Cab for Cutie and new albums from Modest Mouse,

Deer Tick, and Widow Speak.

My name is Stephen Hayden, and I'm joined by my friend and co-host.

He's going to keep me from offending any publicist this week.

Ian Cohen, Ian, how are you?

So in the world of sober living, sometimes they'll have people

who graduated from those programs become recovery coaches in the house. And that's what I'm feeling

like right now. It's a, you know, it's, I never would have thought, uh, that you're the good cop.

I know. You're the good cop now. I, who would have if you looked at our careers, your background at Pitchfork,

you were known as the Hammer at Pitchfork in the 2010s.

Now you're the good cop.

You're the Danny Glover, and I'm the Mel Gibson.

Yeah, maybe you want a rich.

Well, the Roger Berta and the, I can't remember Mel Gibson or another yeah maybe maybe you want a rich right well the the the the Roger

Mertat and the I can't remember Mel Gibson's character's name and lethal weapon do you know

that rigs rigs riggs Riggs Riggs Martin Riggs that's it yes rigs um another analogy I thought of

was back in the 2010s when Bill Simmons and Jalen Rose were on NBA countdown

on ESPN. Jalen Rose had this recurring bit where he would say, don't get fired, Bill.

Right before Bill would say something maybe controversially say, don't get fired Bill.

Like he would be there to prevent Bill from saying something that would get him fired.

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